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Top CIA Security Advisor: Jeffrey Epstein Epstein Was A Made Up Person & They Can See Your Messages!

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Mar 1, 2026
Gavin de Becker, security and violence-prevention expert and author of The Gift of Fear, explains state-level phone hacking and surveillance risks. He discusses the construction and tradecraft behind Jeffrey Epstein’s recording operation. He shares why intuition matters for safety and how power, secrecy, and intelligence shape modern threats.
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Assume Your Phone Conversations Are Not Private

  • Assume no digital communication is private and limit sensitive content on phones.
  • Gavin warns that even modified secure phones only delay exploits because attackers continuously develop new vulnerabilities.

Case For Epstein As An Intelligence Asset

  • Gavin believes Epstein served as an intelligence asset tied to an allied state.
  • He points to Ghislaine Maxwell's father, Mossad connections, and public evidence to support Israel as the likely ally.

Division Is The Fuel Of Power

  • Fear and division are the primary instruments of centralized power and control.
  • Gavin frames division as fuel for leaders: when citizens fight each other, elites retain unchecked power.
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