Afghanistan and authoritarian regime expert Professor Natasha Lindstaedt joins the podcast to explain why it's important Western countries try to talk to the Taliban, even though attempts to moderate them will be "extremely difficult". She describes how isolating the country under the extremist group could lead to further abuses of its people. She also explains why Afghanistan has been "impossible to govern" effectively for decades, and how tribal loyalty means the Taliban regime won't "last for decades and decades".
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