
Just and Sinner Podcast A Discussion on Liturgy
Nov 30, 2018
A lively Q&A on liturgy explores Communion practices like intinction and whether dipping the bread matters. The conversation compares Lutheran and Anglican worship, traces medieval roots, and examines 20th-century liturgical revival. It also looks at how style, vestments, and placement communicate the nature of worship.
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Response To Doug Wilson's Vestments Argument
- Dr. Jordan Cooper recounts Doug Wilson's blog claiming vestments 'are gay' as an example of odd contemporary critiques.
- He rejects Wilson's claim, calling it bizarre and defending vestments as communicating sacredness rather than feminizing ministry.
Why Lutheran and Anglican Liturgies Resemble Each Other
- Lutheran and Anglican liturgies share medieval Western roots and Reformation-era aims to retain Catholic form while embracing justification by grace.
- Anglican liturgy keeps Eucharistic prayers and a more Reformed avoidance of images, while Luther emphasized verba nuda to protect the words of institution.
Luther's Verba Nuda Shaped Lutheran Communion Practice
- Martin Luther stripped lengthy Eucharistic prayers to protect the centrality of the words of institution (verba nuda).
- That choice reduces sacrificial language around the supper and explains Lutheran caution about reconnecting extensive Eucharistic prayers.



