Real Talk with Zuby

#411 Ed Cooke - Memory & The Future of Human Intelligence

Apr 17, 2026
Ed Cooke, world memory champion and MindMax co-founder, shares his journey from a long hospital stay to training champions and building adaptive learning tools. He explores memory techniques like the memory palace, why memory and imagination overlap, risks of offloading cognition to phones and AI, and how AI can be used to nurture human genius.
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ANECDOTE

Journalist Became Champion In A Year

  • Ed taught journalist Joshua Foer memory techniques over a year, and Foer won the U.S. Memory Championship and later wrote Moonwalking with Einstein.
  • This demonstrates how teachable and fast memory training can be compared with skills like violin.
INSIGHT

Outsourcing Cognition Changes What We Retain

  • Outsourcing cognition to books, Google, and now AI changes what we remember; people remember where to find info more than the info itself (the Google effect).
  • An MIT study found essays written with ChatGPT scored lower, gave less ownership, and showed lower brain activity, illustrating learning atrophy risk.
ADVICE

Write A Paragraph After Reading To Retain More

  • When reading, force yourself to actively recall by writing a brief paragraph after sections or chapters.
  • Active recall reveals gaps in understanding and strengthens memory far more than passive reading.
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