Up Arrow Podcast The Customer Journey Mistakes That Kill 8-Figure Brands With Jason Anderson
Jan 20, 2026
In this discussion, Jason Anderson, COO of Andzen and a CRM strategist with over a decade of experience, reveals critical mistakes brands make in customer journeys. He emphasizes the importance of valuing work to attract high-LTV customers rather than merely chasing low-cost ones. Jason shares insights on effective customer segmentation, reviving dormant clients through strategic outreach, and the pitfalls of poorly managed loyalty programs. He also highlights how integrating data can significantly enhance targeting and conversion efforts.
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Cheap CAC Often Means Low LTV
- Lowering CAC obsessively often attracts low-LTV, coupon-driven buyers who hurt retention.
- Increasing allowable CAC can bring higher-AOV, more loyal customers and improve long-term retention.
Segment By Propensity And Cadence
- Segment customers by purchase propensity and engagement and tailor cadence accordingly (daily for high intent, monthly for dormant).
- Reengage dormant lists monthly to compound small conversion rates into significant revenue over time.
Email Lapsed Customers Monthly
- Email lapsed customers at least once a month; low open rates still return meaningful sales without wrecking deliverability.
- Consistent minimal outreach converted large portions of revenue from previously ignored segments.