The Opposite of Cheating Podcast (Season 2) Episode 50: 1st Year Bookiversary Special with Greer Murphy

“People with integrity aren't perfect. They make mistakes, but the what differentiates them from other folks is that they take accountability for those mistakes and they choose to learn and grow from them.”

“Also expect some of the stuff to fail miserably, right? Because nothing nothing complicated or worth doing works. the first time.”

This special episode (#50) marks the first anniversary of The Opposite of Cheating (University of Oklahoma Press), published in March 2025!

To celebrate the unexpected appeal of the book, Tricia and David hand the mic to returning guest Greer Murphy (Episode 10), who steps in as host. Greer seemed way too excited to “turn the tables” and interview us about how we each found our way into academic integrity work, what surprised us most in writing the book, and what has surprised us since publication.

The conversation ranges from the mentors who “dragged" us into the field, to rewriting the manuscript in the wake of generative AI, to what we’ve learned from thousands of faculty, administrators and students through our virtual and physical visits to 100+ campuses and recording over 50 episodes of this cast.

We close with a grounded, human message: integrity isn’t perfection—it’s accountability, learning, and growth, and its the privilege we have as educators to help our students work towards that.

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