The Dissenter

#1033 Michael Levin: Self, Collective Intelligence, Cognition, Life after Death, & More

Dec 16, 2024
In a captivating discussion, Dr. Michael Levin, a Distinguished Professor at Tufts University, delves into the wonders of living systems and the definition of 'self'. He explores the regenerative powers of planaria and their potential ties to cancer resistance. The conversation shifts to collective intelligence in biology, revealing how cells cooperate in development. Levin introduces the 'Mind Everywhere' framework, posing intriguing questions about sentience and memory. The podcast concludes with groundbreaking ideas about the thanatotranscriptome and the nature of life and consciousness.
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ANECDOTE

Adaptive Developmental Responses

  • Newts adapt kidney tubule structure to cell size changes using different molecular mechanisms.
  • Caterpillar brain dissolves and remaps memories during metamorphosis, showing dynamic self-management in development.
INSIGHT

Mind Everywhere Framework

  • Mind Everywhere framework seeks to identify common features of all agents regardless of origin or composition.
  • Intelligence and cognition are pragmatic interaction protocols useful for controlling and collaborating with diverse systems.
ADVICE

Testing Sentience Experimentally

  • To infer sentience, hypothesize goals and competencies then design experiments testing problem-solving abilities.
  • Use functional behavioral tests rather than unclear philosophical definitions.
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