Revolutionizing AI: Tackling the Alignment Problem | Zuzalu #3

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Jul 20, 2023

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Nate Soares

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Deger Turan

Nate Soares, the Executive Director at MIRI, and Deger Turan, who leads the AI Objectives Institute, dive deep into the challenges of AI alignment. They discuss the dual nature of AI as both a potential threat and a solution to societal issues. The conversation spans human coordination failures, the urgent need to prioritize human values, and innovative strategies for reducing biases in AI systems. They also emphasize the importance of fostering a hopeful outlook amidst the complexities of AI development, underscoring the need for skilled individuals in this critical field.

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INSIGHT

Existential vs. Extinction Risk

Deger Turan sees a low probability of total AI-caused human extinction.
However, he sees a high risk of an undesirable future due to misaligned systems.

INSIGHT

Human Alignment First

AI tools can help solve human alignment issues, which are prerequisites for AI alignment.
Solving AI alignment without human alignment just shifts the problem.

ANECDOTE

AI in Insurance

Insurance companies already use AI to optimize claim rejection, illustrating existing misalignment.
Turan asks if AI can instead improve our understanding of societal externalities.

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In this episode, we delve into the frontier of AI and the challenges surrounding AI alignment. The AI / Crypto overlap at Zuzalu sparked discussions on topics like ZKML, MEV bots, and the integration of AI agents into the Ethereum landscape.

However, the focal point was the alignment conversation, which showcased both pessimistic and resigned optimistic perspectives. We hear from Nate Sores of MIRI, who offers a downstream view on AI risk, and Deger Turan, who emphasizes the importance of human alignment as a prerequisite for aligning AI. Their discussions touch on epistemology, individual preferences, and the potential of AI to assist in personal and societal growth.

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Timestamps

0:00 Intro 1:50 Guests

5:30 NATE SOARES 7:25 MIRI 13:30 Human Coordination 17:00 Dangers of Superintelligence 21:00 AI’s Big Moment 24:45 Chances of Doom 35:35 A Serious Threat 42:45 Talent is Scarce 48:20 Solving the Alignment Problem 59:35 Dealing with Pessimism 1:03:45 The Sliver of Utopia

1:14:00 DEGER TURAN 1:17:00 Solving Human Alignment 1:22:40 Using AI to Solve Problems 1:26:30 AI Objectives Institute 1:31:30 Epistemic Security 1:36:18 Curating AI Content 1:41:00 Scalable Coordination 1:47:15 Building Evolving Systems 1:54:00 Independent Flexible Systems 1:58:30 The Problem is the Solution 2:03:30 A Better Future

----- Resources

Nate Soares https://twitter.com/So8res?s=20

Deger Turan https://twitter.com/degerturann?s=20

MIRI https://intelligence.org/

Less Wrong AI Alignment xhttps://www.lesswrong.com/tag/ai-alignment-intro-materials

AI Objectives Institute https://aiobjectives.org/

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