
The Foreign Affairs Interview Preparing for the World After Trump
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Jul 10, 2025 Mira Rapp-Hooper, a senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations, and Rebecca Lissner, an associate professor at the Naval War College, delve into the transformative impact of Trump's presidency on American foreign policy. They discuss the resilience of global alliances despite disruptions and the implications of a potential second Trump term. The duo emphasizes the need for innovative strategies in a multipolar world and argues that the current landscape offers a unique opportunity to redefine U.S. diplomatic engagement and partnerships.
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Lessons from Afghanistan to Ukraine
- Biden administration learned from Afghanistan withdrawal mistakes to prepare effectively for Ukraine invasion.
- Early contingency planning made the Ukraine support one of Biden's foreign policy high points.
Ukraine War Boosts Indo-Pacific Deterrence
- Strong alliance support for Ukraine signals to China that aggression will meet collective resistance.
- Indo-Pacific allies see Ukraine support as vital for deterring possible Chinese actions in Asia.
Pragmatism Over Ideology Needed
- US foreign policy must balance democratic ideals with pragmatic cooperation, even with autocracies.
- Trump's domestic challenges diminish US moral authority, urging humility and broader coalition-building approaches.

