Holy Shift #18 - When Narcissism Comes to Church with Chuck DeGroat (Author, Therapist)
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Feb 19, 2025 Chuck DeGroat, therapist and seminary professor who writes on spiritual abuse and healing. He defines narcissism in church life and lists signs of narcissistic leadership. He contrasts narcissistic leaders with narcissistic systems and explores why people stay. He also outlines paths for stepping away and beginning recovery after harm.
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Hospitalization Prompted Chuck's Ministry Exit
- Chuck DeGroat's transition out of full-time ministry followed a 2012 hospitalization where his body 'kept the score' and became septic.
- That medical crisis prompted radical reevaluation of ministry demands and his move toward therapy and seminary work.
Narcissism Is A Defensive Survival Structure
- Narcissism is a defensive structure built from early wounds that protects a fragile self.
- Chuck DeGroat describes it as grandiosity, entitlement, approval seeking, and low empathy formed to survive trauma.
Ministry Naturally Mirrors Narcissistic Needs
- Narcissistic traits map naturally onto ministry because the role provides attention, belonging, safety, and affirmation.
- Chuck explains pastors can use congregations as mirrors to feel seen and soothed, perpetuating survival strategies.
