Supper Club × Ryan Dahl and Deno

Nov 18, 2022

Ryan Dahl, the visionary behind Node.js and Deno, dives deep into the evolution of JavaScript in this engaging conversation. He shares insights on why he created Deno, its performance benefits, and its integration with TypeScript. Dahl also discusses the promising future of serverless frameworks and how Deno simplifies development with built-in tools. The conversation highlights Deno's role in modern web development and the shifting landscape towards server-side rendering and edge functions, providing a fresh perspective on coding today.

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ADVICE

Web Developers and Rust

Focus on JavaScript/TypeScript if primarily web developing; Rust is useful for WASM or native modules.
JavaScript's connection to web browsers ensures its future relevance.

INSIGHT

Deno's NPM Support

Deno aims for full NPM module compatibility, allowing direct imports without npm install.
This compatibility acts as a bridge to existing Node.js projects.

ADVICE

Browser-Compatible APIs

Prioritize browser-compatible APIs (Fetch, WebGPU) over Node.js APIs in Deno.
This approach promotes code portability and aligns with web standards.

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Show Notes

00:36 Welcome
Tinyclouds.org
Ry on GitHub
Deno
Deno Discord
01:18 The introduction of Node
02:51 Why are you still betting on JavaScript for the web?
05:34 Why did you make Deno?
09:04 How does TypeScript fit into the landscape?
11:40 How is Deno so much faster?
13:28 Sponsor: Sanity
14:17 What is Deno written in?
15:56 Should developers be learning Rust?
18:27 Will libraries that work on npm eventually work in Deno?
21:52 Are we going to use Node API’s or web spec?
24:31 Sponsor: Sentry
25:31 What is tooling like for Deno?
WinterCG
Deno VS Code Extension
29:27 What is Deno deploy?
Deno Deploy
34:01 Deno’s framework Fresh
38:56 Client side vs server side rendering
41:27 Sponsor: Gatsby
42:28 What’s the future of Deno?
43:39 Supper club questions
53:30 SIIIIICK ××× PIIIICKS ×××

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