Why 69% of CISOs Are Ready to Walk Away with Anthony Johnson

The CISO role isn’t the finish line, it’s a launchpad. 69% of security executives are eyeing the exit, and Anthony Johnson is proof that what comes next can be even bigger.

Anthony Johnson, former Global CISO at JP Morgan and Fannie Mae, now founder and managing partner at Delve Risk, breaks down what really happens when a security leader stops buying tools and starts building companies. From the trap of unpaid advisory boards to why AI is eliminating the entry-level pipeline, Anthony delivers a no-nonsense look at career strategy, the future of fractional work, and why understanding how your company makes money is the most underrated skill in cybersecurity. If you’re a security practitioner at any level, this episode will change how you think about your next move.

Impactful Moments
00:00 - Introduction
01:00 - Meet Anthony Johnson
02:00 - 69% of CISOs want out
06:00 - Why Anthony left the CISO seat
09:00 - Revenue changes your security priorities
11:00 - Career paths after the CISO role
13:00 - The advisory board compensation trap
17:00 - AI’s threat to the talent pipeline
22:00 - Hiring for aptitude over competency
24:00 - Soft skills win in the AI era
29:00 - Corporate loyalty is dead—now what
31:00 - Networking that actually lands roles
34:00 - Know how your company makes money
36:00 - Ron’s personal reflection on freedom

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