The TRUTH About Michael Jackson as Biopic Sets Records, and Blake Lively's DOOMED Legal Strategy, with Mark Geragos and Matt Murphy

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May 12, 2026

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Matt Murphy

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Mark Geragos

Mark Geragos, famed trial lawyer who once represented Michael Jackson, offers courtroom tales and perspective on Jackson’s legacy. Matt Murphy, former prosecutor turned legal podcaster, explains prosecutorial instincts and why certain statements matter. They dive into the film’s cultural ripple, credibility questions around accusers, and the legal strategy behind Blake Lively’s settlement and fee battle.

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ANECDOTE

Geragos Recounts Defending Michael Jackson

Mark Geragos described representing Michael Jackson during CPS and the 2003 criminal case, testifying twice after waiving privilege to defend him.
He recalled moonwalking on the SUV post-indictment, eviction of a problematic family from Neverland, and suing a jet operator for taping attorney-client conversations.

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Abuse Fame And Addiction Shaped Jackson's Decline

Michael Jackson's extreme childhood abuse and relentless fame likely combined to create lifelong psychological and medical vulnerabilities.
Geragos and Megyn cite his father's beatings, Michael's childlike demeanor, addiction to prescription drugs, and eventual death from propofol administered by Conrad Murray.

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Documentary Left Out Key Credibility Problems

Leaving Neverland omitted key credibility issues that weaken Wade Robson and James Safechuck's claims, according to Geragos and Megyn.
They highlight prior sworn statements, inconsistent timelines, and the filmmakers' failure to disclose financial or legal incentives.

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Megyn Kelly is joined by Mark Geragos, co-host of "In The Well," to discuss the new Michael Jackson movie "Michael" dominating the culture, the controversy over his legacy back into the spotlight, credibility questions surrounding his accusers, the phenomenon of representing Jackson at the trial, the abuse Michael Jackson suffered throughout his childhood at the hands of his father, the truth about the completely unique level of fame he achieved, the various child abuse allegations made against Michael Jackson, why the accusations remain so difficult to assess years later, major questions surrounding the accusers featured in "Leaving Neverland," the changing story we've heard from them over the years, and more. Then Matt Murphy, co-host of "In The Well," joins to discuss the shocking 2003 interview moment of Michael Jackson talking about kids, how the comments fueled public backlash and legal scrutiny, Blake Lively’s lawyer attempting to spin her client’s brutal legal loss after she settled for no money, the remaining battle over attorney fees, why Blake Lively’s legal strategy against Justin Baldoni was doomed to fail, whether her lawyers are trying to cover their own failures now, and more.

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