Ahrefs Podcast

World's Top SEO Expert Busts AI Search Myths | Patrick Stox (Ahrefs)

Nov 11, 2025
Patrick Stox, a seasoned expert in technical SEO and search optimization, shares valuable insights on the dynamics between AI chatbots and search engines. He explains how AI bots can render JavaScript and the importance of both consensus and unique content for citations. Patrick dives into the workings of large language models, emphasizes the significance of plain language, and advocates for leveraging YouTube as a more effective channel than AI for brand visibility. He concludes that AEO is fundamentally good marketing integrated with holistic strategies.
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ANECDOTE

Ahrefs Removed A Problematic Credits System

  • Tim describes Ahrefs removing a credits system after persistent user complaints.
  • The product change solved reputational issues that explanations alone could not fix.
ADVICE

Say Exactly What Your Product Does

  • Write plainly and avoid marketing jargon or metaphors that confuse AI assistants and users.
  • Use clear descriptions and explicit statements of what your product or feature does.
ADVICE

Cite Sources To Improve Credibility

  • Cite sources and link out when possible to help retrieval systems and build credibility.
  • Providing explicit citations increases the chance AI assistants will reference your content.
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