The Way I Heard It with Mike Rowe 389: Gavin de Becker—You Can Learn a Lot in a Smoke-Filled Airplane
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Jun 11, 2024 
Security expert Gavin De Becker discusses intuition, true fear, and sudden deaths in 2021. Highlights importance of apologies, personal safety, and societal reliance on instincts. Emphasizes distinguishing fear types, protective services, and submarine production. Explores training programs, emergency preparedness, vaccination controversies, government control, and career paths. Ends with a lighthearted conversation about stalker stories and favorite jackets.
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Scissors Incident Resolved With Apology
- Gavin tells of his adopted son Pisa stabbing another child with scissors; a prompt apology resolved the incident without police involvement.
- He emphasizes resolving family conflicts internally to restore dynamics and consequences.
Differentiate True Fear From Anxiety
- Distinguish true fear from unwarranted fear: true fear signals present danger and demands action, unwarranted fear stems from memory or imagination.
- Example: fear from a recent local sighting (drunk pilot) is valid; fear from distant news isn't.
Use Fear Inoculation In Training
- Train under realistic stressors including simunition and bite-suit dogs to inoculate fear and build performance under threat.
- De Becker explains recruits get shot with simunition and attacked by dogs to replicate real consequences.