The Defiant - DeFi Podcast Optimism Is Done With “Ethereum Alignment” — Users Come First
Mar 6, 2026
Jing Wang, co-founder of Optimism and builder of customizable roll-up chains, explains Optimism’s shift into a Superchain of interconnected chains. He discusses enterprise-ready OP Enterprise, tradeoffs between privacy, UX and decentralization, the practical debate over L1/L2 labels, and why ZK proofs and revenue-aligned tokenomics matter for bringing finance on-chain.
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Production Experience Trumps Feature Lists
- Experience in production gives OP Stack an edge in enterprise rollouts.
- Jing Wang emphasizes three extra years of onboarding enterprises and hundreds of small engineering improvements matter more than any single feature.
Use Mainnet As A Neutral Launchpad And Testbed
- Use OP Mainnet as a neutral launchpad and feature testbed while prioritizing partner chains.
- Jing Wang explains OP Mainnet helps apps migrate later and lets Optimism beta new features before rolling them to partners.
Base's Scale Clarified Optimism's Roadmap
- Base's rapid user growth clarified Optimism's roadmap rather than skewing it toward one customer.
- Jing Wang says building for Base meant building for the fastest-growing human onboarding scale, benefiting all partners seeking similar performance.