Jay Graber: From Digital Rights Activism to founding Bluesky

Today I'm talking to Jay Graber, founder and former CEOof Bluesky. Bluesky recently announced raising $100M in Series B funding to build a decentralized social protocol that could reshape how we think about online communication.

Jay is a blockchain builder who accidentally became the CEO of a social media platform — one the internet cast as a protest movement whether she liked it or not.

Jay's story is the opposite of a straight path. She grew up in rural Oklahoma with a Chinese immigrant mother and a Swiss-American father, went to Beijing for a year as a teenager, hitchhiked through Europe, learned to code through a bootcamp, and eventually landed on the mission that defines her work: building social media architecture that protects freedom of expression by removing centralized control. She's the rare founder who can talk equally fluently about the Cultural Revolution, decentralized protocols, Twitter's DNA, and why moderation at scale is a nearly unsolvable problem—because she's actually grappled with each of these.

We talk about the relationship between technology and power, and why Jay is convinced that the internet's architecture—not good intentions—determines whether a society stays free. She opens up about the bet she's making on decentralization, the years of research that led to Bluesky, and what it actually takes to rebuild social media from first principles.

• How a childhood name became destiny: "Blue Sky" in Chinese, then Jack Dorsey's unannounced Twitter project

• The moment she realized: you can't change systems from the outside—you have to know how to code

• Why "protocols, not platforms" could solve moderation at billion-person scale

• From Zcash experiments to scuttlebutt to designing her own protocol—the long road to Bluesky

• What it means to bet your career on decentralization when most of the world isn't ready

and much more…

Timestamps
 (0:00) Introduction
 (1:16) Early Life & Cultural Heritage
 (5:41) Year Abroad in China
 (18:34) Learning Programming & Career Transition
 (38:42) Getting into Cryptocurrency
 (47:47) Working on Zcash & Privacy Technology
 (58:34) Happening.app & Event Platform
 (1:08:30) Blue Sky Origins & Early Days
 (1:11:18) COVID & the Working Group
 (1:24:16) Becoming Blue Sky Lead
 (1:33:06) Decentralized Social Media Explained
 (1:36:09) Twitter Acquisition & Independence
 (1:39:19) Building a Social Media Company
 (2:05:17) Leadership & Management Philosophy
 (2:13:53) Life Philosophy & Closing Thoughts

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