The Stem Cell Podcast

Ep. 315: “Advanced Stem Cell-Based Models” Featuring Drs. Shuibing Chen and Hans Clevers

Mar 3, 2026
Dr. Hans Clevers, pioneer of LGR5 and organoid technology, and Dr. Shuibing Chen, stem cell expert creating patient-specific tissues, discuss advancing stem cell–derived models for drug development. They talk standards, regulatory momentum, benchmarking and reproducibility. The conversation covers scaling, automation, data sharing, and how organoids and NAMs can be integrated into preclinical pipelines.
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INSIGHT

NAMs Bridge Gaps Left By Animal Models

  • New Approach Methodologies (NAMs) combine organoid models and AI to fill gaps animal models cannot, aiming to improve human-relevant preclinical data.
  • Shuibing Chen explained the consortium formed because regulators (FDA, NIH, EU, UK) now prioritize human-relevant models after recent policy shifts like FDA Modernization Act 2.0.
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Risk Aversion Slows Industry Adoption

  • Industry hesitates to adopt NAMs because pharma is risk-averse and regulators expect well-validated, standardized assays for costly development stages.
  • Hans Clevers emphasized that large companies prefer known but imperfect assays over unfamiliar, nonstandard organoid tests.
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Consortia Fill Academia-Industry Incentive Gaps

  • Standardization and validation are unattractive tasks for academia but crucial for industry uptake; consortia can bridge that incentive gap.
  • Hans Clevers highlighted academics lack business incentives to optimize, validate, and industrialize assays needed by pharma.
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