Garza Podcast

177 - NOTHING,NOWHERE: Buddhism, Travis Barker Collab & Being Vegan

May 2, 2025
Joseph Mulherin, the musician behind NOTHING,NOWHERE., blends genres and tours widely. He talks about writing in a Vermont treehouse and mining a 100+ song vault. He discusses Buddhism, managing panic attacks, and pragmatic veganism. He also shares stories of collaborating with Travis Barker, biking through burnout, and embracing viral covers and touring life.
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ANECDOTE

Making Trauma Factory In A Treehouse

  • Joseph Mulherin wrote Trauma Factory mostly in a bare-bones treehouse on his property, running extension cables and tracking with Logic and KRK speakers.
  • He produced over 100 songs across two years there, then pared them down to a 12–14 song record while burning out from the process.
INSIGHT

Treat Creativity As A Nonforcible Flow

  • Mulherin treats creativity as a flow you can't force: if the studio session isn't working, he stops and waits for the moment it clicks.
  • He calls himself a conduit and relies on quick phone notes and recordings to capture riffs and lyrics when inspiration hits.
ADVICE

Don't Commit Publicly To Unsustainable Output

  • Avoid imposing extreme output deadlines if you want authentic work; Mulherin found making four full-length records in one year was demoralizing and unsustainable.
  • He warns that publicizing ambitious commitments early creates pressure that can degrade the creative process.
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