The American Compass Podcast

Want to End Illegal Immigration? Hire American, with Daniel Kishi

Mar 20, 2026
Daniel Kishi, a senior policy advisor who studies immigration and labor policy, discusses shifting enforcement from border actions to workplace accountability. He explains why targeting employers can deter illegal hiring. They explore flaws in H-1B rules, how the lottery and low wages skew the program, and use trucking as a case study of enforcement restoring wages and safety.
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INSIGHT

Interior Enforcement Is The New Hard Part

  • Interior enforcement, not border control, is now the central difficulty in immigration policy.
  • Daniel Kishi explains that while Trump tightened the border, interior actions created political backlash and will need a different enforcement strategy to sustain results.
ADVICE

Target Employers To Deter Illegal Hiring

  • Focus workplace enforcement on employers to create effective deterrence against hiring unauthorized workers.
  • Kishi argues arresting or sanctioning managers and companies, not only individual workers, would push firms to verify authorization and reduce incentives to hire illegally.
ANECDOTE

Minneapolis Raids Sparked Visible Political Backlash

  • High-profile interior raids in sanctuary cities produced protests and political backlash.
  • Oren Cass recounts Minneapolis actions drawing street protests, showing why pivoting to less confrontational employer enforcement can build broader support.
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