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#149 My Problem With C.S. Lewis - Philip Pullman

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Apr 2, 2026

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Philip Pullman

Philip Pullman, award-winning novelist of His Dark Materials, critiques C.S. Lewis and defends maturity, imagination, and conscience. He discusses religion and storytelling, reimagining the Jesus narratives, the role of consciousness and Dust, how music and film shape prose, craft and daily writing habits, and a skeptical take on whether AI can ever truly create with human joy.

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Christ As The Carrier Of Institutional Dogma

In The Good Man Jesus and the Scoundrel Christ Pullman separates Jesus (the man) from Christ (the institutional carrier of dogma).
He notes Paul's emphasis on "Christ" over "Jesus" shaped church development.

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How Altering Judas Would Make A Better Story

Pullman imagines a better Jesus story where Judas transports Jesus away instead of betraying him, creating new narrative possibilities.
He argues the traditional atonement story makes no moral sense as a transaction redeeming future sins.

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Prose Lacks Musical Counterpoint But Other Media Substitute

Pullman maps similarities and limits between music and prose: prose lacks true audible counterpoint but can hint at it through structure.
Comics and film can achieve simultaneous narrative strands that pure prose struggles to replicate.

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Lewis on Books and Atmosphere

00:16 • 2min

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Pullman's Objections to Narnia

02:36 • 3min

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Growing Up as a Positive Theme

05:59 • 4min

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Critique of Organized Religion

10:09 • 3min

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Distance From the New Atheists

12:52 • 2min

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Jesus, Myth and Institutionalization

15:01 • 5min

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Storytelling Problems in the Gospels

Why the Jesus Story Resonates

22:11 • 6min

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Improving the Passion Narrative

28:26 • 1min

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Music, Fiction and Counterpoint

29:27 • 7min

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Rhythm and Writing Aloud

Books vs Films: Medium Strengths

40:43 • 3min

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Adaptations and Author Control

43:25 • 6min

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Consciousness, Dust and the Rosefield

49:21 • 3min

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Dust as Self-Reflective Consciousness

52:16 • 4min

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Authorial Perspective and the Omniscient Voice

56:23 • 4min

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Cinema's Influence on Modern Novels

01:00:51 • 5min

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Subtitles, Sound, and Theatrical Conventions

Philosophy, Imagination and Reader Curiosity

01:12:56 • 2min

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Writing Habits and the Craft

01:14:53 • 3min

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Handwriting, Technology and COVID Impact

01:18:02 • 3min

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AI, Creativity and the Rosefield

01:20:33 • 8min

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Final Thoughts on AI and Artistry

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Philip Pullman is one of England's most cherished and celebrated writers. Author of the popular His Dark Materials series of books (later adapted into a film, The Golden Compass (2007), and a 2019 HBO/BBC drama series), his novels are dripping with philosophical and religious themes.Get Philip Pullman's Books here.

TIMESTAMPS:0:00 - C.S. Lewis Tells Filthy Lies5:12 - Childhood Innocence is Overrated10:09 - Religion in Philip’s Novels21:26 - How to Improve the Story of Jesus and the Gospels27:43 - The Connection Between Music and Fiction36:24 - Books vs Movies43:38 - Consciousness in The Book of Dust50:05 - Should Novelists Go Back and Update Their Books?56:11 - The Omniscient Narrator1:00:12 - How Movies Changed Novels1:05:49 - Why Subtitles Are So Popular Now1:10:56 - The Role of Philosophy in Philip’s Novels1:13:27 - Philip’s Writing Process1:20:11 - The Fear of AI in Creative Industries

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