Why Hackers Know Your Systems Better Than You | Dan Lohrmann, Field CISO for Public Sector, Presidio

In this episode of the Be Fearless Podcast, Dan Lohrmann, Field CISO for Public Sector, Presidio, sits down with SquareX Founder's Office's Aleksandra Melnikova to discuss how AI agents, browser-based threats, deepfakes, and shadow AI tools are reshaping the attack surface—and why CISOs must be embedded in AI governance early. They also touch upon what truly differentiates public-sector cybersecurity, from election cycles and budget whiplash to centralized security governance and trust-based leadership.

00:00 Introduction and when Dan almost got fired over Wi-Fi
8:57 What makes public sector security different from the private sector
13:21 Being Michigan's first ever CISO
22:39 Inside a $28 million ransomware negotiation
28:48 Emerging threats and securing AI
32:37 Advice for CISOs in 2026
35:42 Browser security in AI age and malicious extensions
43:04 People remember stories, CISOs need to earn trust

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