
Steve Deace Show On Iran: What's Our OUT? | Guest: Ryan Walters | 4/9/26
Apr 9, 2026
Ryan Walters, former Oklahoma superintendent now leading Teacher Freedom Alliance to organize teachers against big unions. He outlines new support services for teachers leaving unions and talks about coordinating parents, local action, and surprising demand in blue states. The conversation also touches on U.S. options in the Iran conflict and concerns about messaging and national resolve.
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No Clear Exit Strategy For Iran Conflict
- The U.S. public lacks a clear, shared understanding of what “the out” of the Iran conflict looks like.
- Hosts and guests highlight uncertainty about negotiating with Iran, multiple competing 10-point plans, and unclear post-regime scenarios.
Messaging Determines Public Support In Fog Of War
- Messaging matters more than ever when the public doesn't see an obvious exit or plan.
- Steve and Todd stress that a leader who conveys confidence and a coherent plan (messaging like JD Vance) can hold public support during foggy operations.
Provide Practical Protections To Help Teachers Opt Out
- Organize teachers into an alternative professional association to break union control.
- Ryan Walters describes Teacher Freedom Alliance offering liability insurance, PD hours, and community so teachers can opt out safely.



