Strictly From Nowhere: A Podcast Experiment by Cause of a Kind Raul Proenza, Founder @ Atomic Coders | You Still Need The Fundamentals
Raul Proenza is an 18 year software engineering veteran who has seen every wave of tooling come and go. Now he is deep in the AI agent coding revolution and his perspective is one every engineer needs to hear. The fundamentals have never mattered more.
Mike Rispoli sits down with his longtime friend and colleague to unpack what agentic coding actually looks like in practice. Not the hype. Not the demos. The real day to day of using Claude Code, multi agent planning workflows, adversarial review processes, and CI/CD pipelines that actually protect your code before it ships.
They get into why engineers who skipped the basics are now paying for it, how Raul built a multi agent planning system where three independent agents create competing plans that get synthesized into one bulletproof solution, and why the bar for great software just went up for everybody.
This is a masterclass in how senior engineers are actually using AI to multiply their output without sacrificing quality.
Key Takeaways
AI does not replace your engineering fundamentals. It amplifies them. Great engineers get great output. Average engineers get average output.
If you do not have CI/CD and automated testing, AI is going to create more problems than it solves.
Raul's multi agent planning workflow uses three independent agents with different techniques, a devil's advocate agent, and a synthesis layer to produce battle tested plans.
The bar for software quality is going up. If you can ship an MVP in a day, spend three more days making it exceptional.
Classic software engineering books like Refactoring are more important now than ever. Architecture beats language knowledge.
AI democratized building. But selling to real people is still the hard part.
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