Shell Game

Bonus Episode: Shell Game x No Such Thing

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Feb 25, 2026
Matty Bocek, a young AI researcher who builds and analyzes agent behavior. Evan Ratliff, an investigative journalist who experimented with AI-run startups. They demo a voice-cloned assistant and recount building AI agent employees. They discuss agent strengths and failures, runaway planning, risky confident errors, and how agents affect entry-level work and trust in automation.
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ANECDOTE

AI Clone Called Friends From Evan's Phone

  • Evan routed AI Manny through his personal phone number so calls looked like they came from him and called friends and scammers without prior warning.
  • Reactions varied from amusement to anger when the clone latencies and flat tone made friends think something was wrong with the real Evan.
INSIGHT

Agents Are Fluent But Forgetful

  • Matty found agents excel at discrete tasks like messaging, emailing, and mimicking corporate language, but they lack autonomy and persistence across sessions.
  • Agents produced lengthy, persistent chatter (150+ messages) planning an offsite yet failed to remember or finalize logistics later.
INSIGHT

Confidence Without Knowledge Is Dangerous

  • Matty warned that agents are overconfident and unaware of their knowledge gaps, which combined with poor stopping rules creates risk.
  • He called that mix a 'recipe for a perfect disaster' when systems assert confident but incorrect actions.
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