The Joe Rogan Experience

#1800 - Gavin de Becker

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Apr 1, 2022
Gavin de Becker, a leading expert in violence prediction and protection, dives into his transformative journey from humble beginnings in Hollywood to safeguarding high-profile figures. He shares fascinating insights into navigating celebrity culture and the psychological nuances of fame. The conversation touches on the intricacies of threat assessment, including the evolving landscape of cyber security and the implications of surveillance technology. With a focus on personal safety, de Becker critiques traditional self-defense methods and the importance of awareness in today’s society.
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INSIGHT

Predicting Violence

  • De Becker discovered that direct death threats were not the most reliable indicator of potential violence.
  • He found that other communications, like targeted travel or sending disturbing items, were more indicative of risk.
ANECDOTE

The Bezos Phone Hacking

  • De Becker investigated the hacking of Jeff Bezos's phone, connecting it to a video text from MBS.
  • The video contained spyware that downloaded data from Bezos's phone.
INSIGHT

Spyware and Vulnerabilities

  • Spyware like Pegasus 2 can be introduced through various means, including texts, videos, or even unopened WhatsApp messages.
  • Governments and other powerful entities use such tools to gain complete access to a target's phone data.
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