We Study Billionaires - The Investor’s Podcast Network RWH065: Joyful Excellence w/ Brad Stulberg
Brad Stulberg, author and performance coach focused on sustainable excellence and well-being. He explores why excellence blends courage with vulnerability. He warns about tech-driven distraction and outlines mundane daily rituals, rest practices, and simple routines that protect focus. He also discusses aligning work with core values and how intensity plus joy sustains long-term mastery.
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Use Minimum Effective Doses
- Set minimum effective doses for important domains so they don't collapse during intense seasons.
- Maintain basics (e.g., one date night, 3 workouts/week) instead of abandoning important rooms.
Healthy Versus Reckless Obsession
- Two kinds of obsession exist: reckless addiction and controlled, caring obsession.
- Excellence needs controlled obsession that you can pause for life demands and perspective.
Make Rest Part Of The Work
- Treat rest and renewal as integral parts of training, not luxuries to add later.
- Use micro-breaks (walks, showers) and full rest days to boost creativity and recovery.
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Intro
00:00 • 2min
Why Brad Became Obsessed with Excellence
01:54 • 2min
Persig, Quality, and the Origin of the Book
04:00 • 4min
Quality as Intimacy Between Actor and Act
07:30 • 2min
Concrete Work and the Satisfaction of Skill
09:40 • 3min
Innate Sense of Beauty and Excellence
12:39 • 8min
Defining Excellence: Involved Engagement
20:16 • 3min
Algorithmic Distraction and Pseudo-Excellence
23:40 • 3min
Ad break
27:00 • 4min
Designing an Ecosystem Resistant to Distraction
30:41 • 4min
The Mundane Lives of Top Performers
34:15 • 8min
Identifying Core Values Practically
42:20 • 4min
Trade-offs, Identity Rooms, and Seasons
46:40 • 5min
Minimum Effective Doses to Maintain Rooms
51:50 • 2min
Healthy vs. Reckless Obsession
53:40 • 4min
Rest and Renewal as Integral to Work
57:43 • 3min
Ad break
01:00:35 • 4min
Micro-Breaks, Default-Mode Creativity, and Walks
01:04:17 • 3min
Consistency, Compounding, and Raising the Floor
01:07:31 • 14min
Three Daily, Weekly, and Monthly Practices
01:21:23 • 4min
Deep Work, Cal Newport, and the Deep Life
01:25:41 • 3min
Shaping Physical Space to Support Focus
01:29:00 • 4min
Intensity Plus Joy and Celebratory Rituals
01:32:41 • 5min
Becoming Stronger, Kinder, and Wiser
01:38:00 • 5min
Outro
01:42:47 • 48sec
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This classic novel by Robert M. Pirsig is a personal and philosophical odyssey that delves into the author's search for meaning.
The narrative follows a father and his son on a summer motorcycle trip from the Midwest to California, intertwining a travelogue with deep philosophical discussions.
The book explores the concept of 'quality' and how it informs a well-lived life, reconciling science, religion, and humanism.
It also touches on the author's own struggles with his past and his philosophical quest, making it a touching and transcendent exploration of human experience and endeavor.
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The novel is set in 1862 during the American Civil War and revolves around the death of Willie Lincoln, the 11-year-old son of President Abraham Lincoln.
After Willie's death from typhoid fever, his spirit finds itself in a limbo known as the bardo, a concept borrowed from Tibetan Buddhism.
Here, he encounters a diverse group of ghosts who are also trapped between the world of the living and the afterlife.
The story delves into themes of grief, both personal and national, as Lincoln grapples with the loss of his son amidst the broader context of the Civil War. The novel is characterized by its unique narrative style, which includes a multitude of voices and historical quotes, and its exploration of the human experience of suffering and love.
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The Practice of Groundedness
A Transformative Path to Success That Feeds--Not Crushes--Your Soul
Brad Stulberg
In this book, Brad Stulberg presents a healthier model for success that counters the 'always-on' hustle culture.
Groundedness, the central concept, values presence over productivity, accepts nonlinear progress, and prioritizes long-term fulfillment.
The book interweaves case studies, modern science, and ancient wisdom from Buddhism, Stoicism, and Taoism to teach readers how to cultivate a more grounded life.
Key practices include accepting where you are, being present, developing patience, embracing vulnerability, building deep community, and focusing on the process rather than outcomes.
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How the World's Greatest Investors Win in Markets and Life
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In Richer, Wiser, Happier, William Green draws on interviews conducted over twenty-five years with many of the world’s greatest investors.
The book highlights that the most successful investors are mavericks and iconoclasts who question conventional wisdom and think rationally, rigorously, and objectively.
They maximize their odds of long-term success in markets and life by drawing insights from diverse fields such as neuroscience, economic history, psychology, philosophy, and more.
Green explains how these investors can teach us not only how to become rich but also how to improve our thinking, decision-making, risk assessment, and resilience, and how to turn uncertainty to our advantage.
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On Quality
An Inquiry into Excellence
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On Quality features selections from Robert M. Pirsig's unpublished writings, offering insights into his Metaphysics of Quality.
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It provides a comprehensive look at Pirsig's philosophical development over five decades.
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Master of Change
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The book describes change as an ongoing cycle of order, disorder, and reorder, and provides concrete habits and practices to implement this mindset.
It emphasizes the importance of reflection, embracing feelings of sadness and loss, and taking productive action during challenges.
Stulberg introduces the 4P framework: pause, process, plan, and proceed, to help readers respond effectively to change.
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The book is divided into two parts: the first part explains why deep work is valuable, rare, and meaningful, while the second part presents four rules to transform your mind and habits to support this skill.
These rules include 'Work Deeply', 'Embrace Boredom', 'Quit Social Media', and 'Drain the Shallows'.
Newport provides actionable advice and examples from various successful individuals to help readers master the skill of deep work and achieve groundbreaking results.
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The Way of Excellence
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Lila
An Inquiry Into Morals
Robert Pirsig
In 'Lila: An Inquiry into Morals', Robert M. Pirsig continues his philosophical journey from 'Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance'.
The story follows Phaedrus, Pirsig's alter ego, as he sails down the Hudson River and encounters Lila, a woman struggling with mental health issues and a chaotic life.
The book delves into Pirsig's Metaphysics of Quality, distinguishing between static and dynamic quality, and explores themes such as morality, the interaction between intellectual and social patterns, and the critique of Western civilization's binary thinking.
Through Lila's tumultuous life, Pirsig examines whether individuals who embody dynamic quality can be considered morally good, and whether moral value is static or dynamic.
William Green welcomes back bestselling author Brad Stulberg to chat about his new book, The Way of Excellence: A Guide to True Greatness & Deep Satisfaction in a Chaotic World. IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN:
00:00:00 - Intro 00:01:27 - How Brad Stulberg became obsessed with the pursuit of excellence 00:18:49 - Why excellence requires a combination of guts & vulnerability 00:22:51 - How “algorithmic mass distraction” blocks us from a life of excellence 00:30:10 - Why the best performers lead lives that often look mundane & boring 00:38:00 - How to identify your core values & align your career with them 00:42:22 - How we drive ourselves crazy pursuing the illusion of balance 00:53:18 - Why periods of rest & renewal are integral to success & creativity 01:07:30 - Why the key to greatness is consistency—especially on bad days 01:13:43 - Why excelling at hard things requires “fierce self-kindness” 01:21:19 - How Brad structures his daily, weekly & monthly routines 01:25:33 - What he’s learned about deep work from his friend Cal Newport 01:28:51 - How to create a physical environment that supports good habits 01:37:36 - How to work with intensity & joy & to become a “humble badass”
Disclaimer: Slight discrepancies in the timestamps may occur due to podcast platform differences.
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- Brad’s website.
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- Brad's The Way of Excellence.
- Brad's Master of Change & The Practice of Groundedness.
- Robert Pirsig's Zen & the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance, Lila & On Quality.
- Cal Newport's Deep Work.
- George Saunders' Lincoln in the Bardo.
- William Green’s previous podcast with Brad Stulberg.
- William Green’s book, Richer, Wiser, Happier.
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- Related books mentioned in the podcast.
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