
The Megyn Kelly Show Don Lemon ARRESTED Under Klan and FACE Acts, with Michael Knowles, Mike Davis, Bill Shipley, and Howard Blum | Ep. 1242
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Jan 30, 2026 Bill Shipley, former federal prosecutor offering concise legal analysis. Howard Blum, investigative journalist discussing new crime scene photos. Michael Knowles, conservative commentator providing political reaction. They debate Don Lemon’s arrest under Klan and FACE statutes, journalistic defenses and evidence of coordination. Blum explores unsettling Idaho crime-scene details and possible unknown DNA. Short, fast-paced legal and investigative conversation.
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First Amendment Is Not A Get-Out-Of-Crime Card
- Bill Shipley explains there's no First Amendment exception to committing crimes in the name of journalism.
- He stresses courts examine journalist conduct and commentary to distinguish reporting from participation.
Stay Observational, Not Participatory
- Avoid inserting yourself into illegal actions even to document them; stay in permitted public areas.
- Journalists should refuse to provide material support or aid to groups planning unlawful disruption.
Enforcement Must Be Evenhanded
- Michael Knowles and others emphasize equal application of enforcement, citing past prosecutions of protesters at abortion clinics.
- They argue inconsistent enforcement breeds perceptions of selective justice and political bias.





