The Rest Is Politics: Leading 180. The Only European Leader Defying Trump? (Pedro Sánchez)
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Mar 16, 2026 
Pedro Sánchez, Prime Minister of Spain and socialist leader known for his international stance. He talks about opposing unilateral military actions and defending rules-based international law. He discusses strengthening European defense, EU enlargement and reform, Spain’s green energy transition, migration policies, and handling the rise of the far right.
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Europe Must Defend Rules Based Order
- Pedro Sánchez says Europe must defend the rules-based international order against unilateral actions like recent U.S. trade moves and military decisions.
- He links Spain's refusal to allow U.S. use of southern bases to a consistent legalist foreign policy stance.
Far Right Is Weakening Global Order
- Sánchez attributes fragmented Western responses to a rising far right and weakened political will to reform global institutions.
- He warns the choice is upgrade the order for the 21st century or revert to a law-of-force 19th-century model.
Scale Up European Market Integration
- Do scale European integration by federating core markets (capital, energy, digital, defense) and allow multi-speed progress for willing states.
- Sánchez argues enemies benefit from fragmentation, so shared sovereignty increases EU strength.