Love Will Never Fail—Christian Universalism (Jason Clark and David Artman)

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In this episode of Slutty Grace, Jeromy Johnson is joined by Jason Clark and David Artman, two of the most influential and trusted voices in the contemporary Christian universalism and universal reconciliation conversation.

Jason Clark is a pastor, theologian, and host of Rethinking God with Tacos, a podcast known for thoughtful, accessible conversations about faith, doubt, and the character of God. With a pastoral heart and a sharp theological mind, Jason has helped thousands rethink inherited beliefs about hell, judgment, and salvation—always centering the discussion on the goodness and coherence of God revealed in Jesus.

David Artman is a theologian, author, and host of Grace Saves All, a podcast dedicated to exploring biblical universalism, early church theology, and the historical roots of universal reconciliation. David’s work bridges scholarship and storytelling, drawing from Scripture, church history, and moral reasoning to ask a simple but profound question: If God is love, what must that mean for everyone?

Together, Jason and David explore why Christian universalism isn’t a fringe idea but a deeply biblical, historically grounded vision of salvation—one where grace finishes what it starts, justice heals instead of harms, and love never fails. They wrestle honestly with hell, free will, judgment, and restoration, offering a vision of faith that doesn’t rely on fear, threats, or exclusion to make sense.

This conversation is for anyone navigating faith deconstruction, questioning eternal conscious torment, or longing for a theology that reflects a God who refuses to abandon creation. It’s a thoughtful, hopeful, and intellectually serious discussion—without losing warmth, humor, or humanity.

If you’ve ever wondered whether God’s love really gets the final word, this episode invites you to imagine what faith looks like when the answer is yes.

Jason Clark: https://jasonclarkis.com/

David Artman: https://www.davidartman.net/

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Episode written, hosted, edited and produced by Jeromy Johnson.