
The Unstuck Church Podcast with Amy Anderson Structure & Finding Staff - Episode 422
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Nov 12, 2025 Jonathan Smith, lead pastor of OneChurch.to and a key player in the Unstuck Group, dives into the challenges of staffing in growing churches. He discusses the importance of hiring strategic leaders and stresses cultivating talent from within the congregation. Jonathan shares his philosophy on hiring, emphasizing the need for clear role discussions and a focus on long-term employability. He advises against rushed decisions and highlights the importance of structured volunteer pathways to identify future staff. His insights aim to build a strong, mission-driven church team.
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Invest In Multiplying Leaders
- Use staff dollars to hire strategic leaders who multiply themselves rather than add more doers.
- Avoid reactionary hiring that plugs holes; prioritize long-term leadership capacity instead.
Design Your Future Structure Now
- Design the ideal structure for a church twice your size to guide today's staffing choices.
- Use that future structure to identify 18–24 month leadership needs and proactively develop candidates.
Fish In Your Own Congregation
- Regularly ask leadership who in the congregation shows potential and keep a prayed-over bench list.
- Invite promising volunteers to advisory teams to observe and develop them before hiring.




