Jim Hunter, a former institutional bond trader and hedge fund manager, joins Jordan to explain why his decades in finance—especially during the 2008 crisis—led him to view gold as a critical safeguard against systemic risk, currency debasement, and government overreach. Drawing from both market experience and economic principles, Jim argues that gold remains a timeless store of value and form of sound money, even in today’s fiat-driven system. The two find strong common ground: both gold and Bitcoin offer scarcity, independence from centralized control, and protection outside the traditional financial system—making them complementary tools for long-term stewardship and financial resilience.