400 — Infected On Purpose? Rethinking Herd Immunity with Dr. Jonathan Howard

In this rerun of episode #281, hosts Drs. May and Tim Hindmarsh interview neurologist-psychiatrist Dr. Jonathan Howard, author of We Want Them Infected. 

Dr. Howard critiques the widely discussed “herd immunity via infection” strategy during the COVID-19 pandemic. He draws on his dual specialties and hospital experience at institutions like NYU Langone Medical Center and Bellevue Hospital to explore how public health policy, vaccine deployment, lockdowns, school closures, and early treatment approaches intersected — sometimes with unintended consequences. The episode highlights ethical questions around using children as vectors of infection, the tension between hospital frontline realities and broad public-health strategies, and the importance of open discussion in medicine rather than censorship.

 

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