3.27 Joe Rigney, Michael Carlino, David Schrock • Interview • "The SBC Isn't Drifting, It's Being Steered: A Sober-Minded Response to Emotional Sabotage"

Listen in as a Joe Rigney and Michael Carlino join David Schrock to discuss Joe's book Leadership and Emotional Sabotage and to apply the lessons from this book to the Southern Baptist Convention.

Timestamps

• Intro – 00:28
• Joe Rigney’s Time and Interest in the SBC - 03:26
• The Genesis of Joe Rigney’s Book and Edwin Friedman 05:45
• Rigney’s Influence on Michael Carlino - 10:18
• How Do We See the Sin of Empathy Being Worked Out in the SBC Today? - 13:34
• Friedman’s Fable Regarding Empathy - 16:35
• Neutralizing the SBC and the Progressive Gaze - 21:54
• Being Fractured and Frustrated - 26:14
• Sensing the Steering - 27:22
• How Does the Law Amendment Help the SBC to Not Be Steered? - 29:43
• Feminism and Femininity -33:21
• Women Should Not Be the Barometer for the Church - 36:04
• The Female Gaze - 38:21
• Deborah, Barak, and Jael - 39:51
• The Levites Being Able to Suppress Brotherly Affection - 41:49
• Closing and Outro - 45:16 

Resources to Click

• “The SBC Isn’t Drifting, It’s Being Steered: A Sober-Minded Response to Emotional Sabotage” – Michael Carlino
• “Of Empathy and Monsters” – Joe Rigney
• “With One Voice” – Joe Rigney
• Center For Baptist Leadership Podcast
• Learn about the Law Amendment at SBCAmendment.org
• The Sin of Empathy – Doug Wilson and Joe Rigney
• Donate to the SBC Giveaway of Leadership and Emotional Sabotage
• Register for SBC at a Crossroads
• Theme of the Month: Great Books Throughout the Ages
• Give to Support the Work 

Books to Read

• Leadership and Emotional Sabotage – Joe Rigney
• The Things of Earth: Treasuring God by Enjoying His Gifts – Joe Rigney
• A Failure of Nerve: Leadership in the Age of the Quick Fix – Edwin Friedman
• Friedman’s Fables – Edwin Friedman