
The Joe Rogan Experience #1938 - Mariana van Zeller
Feb 8, 2023
Mariana van Zeller, an award-winning investigative journalist and host of Nat Geo's "Trafficked," dives into the shadowy world of black markets. She discusses the chilling rise of ghost guns in America and the emotional toll of joining extremist groups. The conversation shifts to the devastating effects of the opioid crisis, tracing the path from OxyContin to fentanyl. Mariana shares insights on the dark side of exotic pet trading and the exploitation linked to resource extraction, revealing the troubling relationships between global markets and local communities.
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Show's Authenticity
- Mariana van Zeller's show, Trafficked, uses high-quality cinematography.
- This sometimes leads viewers to mistakenly believe the show is fake.
Threatened by American Pain
- Investigating American Pain, Van Zeller and her husband were threatened by two large men.
- A low-gas situation and a 911 call led to their escape, later revealed as the clinic owners.
Rogan Refuses Opiates
- Joe Rogan refused opiates after nose surgery, disliking the "stupid" feeling.
- Earlier knee surgery pain medication prompted a similar negative reaction.

