
Ask Penguin Julian Barnes with Nihal Arthanayake
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Feb 22, 2023 Julian Barnes, the celebrated English novelist and Booker Prize winner, discusses his latest work, Elizabeth Finch. He shares insights into the lessons of history that shaped him, emphasizing the need for Britain to confront its imperial past. The conversation veers into his ‘controlled’ friendship with Anita Brookner and how it influenced his writing. Barnes also reflects on how his French perspective informs his views on nationalism and patriotism, while recounting heartfelt moments that unexpectedly move him, like watching Olympic rowers.
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A Friendship With Rules And Rhythm
- Barnes recounts his controlled, ritualised lunches with Anita Brookner where she set the rules and always paid.
- He accepted those terms and valued the intense 70-minute exchanges she demanded.
When A Suggestion Was Politely Rebuffed
- Barnes tried to interest Brookner in early Paris films but she declined, and he felt briefly hurt by her refusal.
- He later reflected humorously on respecting her ordered social life and boundaries.
Curiosity Grows With Investigation
- Barnes argues curiosity can be developed: appetite grows with practice and investigation.
- He notes writing triggers curiosity by leading you into unexpected subjects, like his nonfiction on a French gynecologist.









