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S04E03 - Rodrigo Nunes on Ecologies of Organization and Democratic Transformation

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Apr 26, 2026

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Rodrigo Nunes

Rodrigo Nunes, Senior Lecturer für Politische Theorie und Autor von Neither Vertical Nor Horizontal, erklärt Organisationsökologien als vielzentrierte Netzwerke. Er spricht über emergente Strategie, dezentrale Führung und Wege, Machtkonzentration zu verhindern. Es geht um Skalierung von kollektiver Aktion, demokratische Planung und wie soziale Bewegungen langfristig Kontinuität gewinnen.

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Soziale Veränderung Als Ökologie Viele Zentren

Soziale Veränderung entsteht niemals durch einen Einzelakteur, sondern durch eine organisatorische Ökologie vieler Zentren.
Rodrigo nennt das Distributed Action: Kombination aus aggregiertem und kollektivem Handeln, sichtbar bei Frauen- und sexueller Befreiung.

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ADVICE

Praktiziere Doppelte Treue Und Positionsbewusstsein

Handle mit doppelter Treue: engagier dich für deine Organisation und zugleich für das breitere Ökosystem, ohne das Eigennutz voranstellst.
Pflege positional awareness: Spieler*innen müssen ihre Rolle situativ wechseln können, nicht identitätsfixiert bleiben.

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Parteiform Ist Kein Automat Für Führung

Die Parteiform garantiert weder Führung noch Gefolgschaft; Erfolg hängt von Situation, Talenten und Basis ab.
Beispiele: Facebook-Gruppen in der Arabischen Frühling und Democracia Real Ya können kickstarten, liefern aber nicht immer dauerhafte Leitung.

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Was bedeutet ‚ökologisch‘ für Organisation?

00:57 • 2min

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Aggregation vs. kollektives Handeln

02:34 • 4min

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Beispiel sexuelle Revolution als Ökologie

06:20 • 3min

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Topologie: verteilt, zentralisiert, dezentralisiert

09:20 • 9min

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Doppelte Fidelity: Organisation und Ökologie

18:00 • 3min

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Positionsbewusstsein im Teamspiel der Politik

20:46 • 4min

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Strategie neu denken: emergent, aber notwendig

24:40 • 28sec

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Italien-Beispiel: Bewegungsepikenter und Ökologie

25:08 • 2min

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Braucht es eine Partei für Richtung und Führung?

27:18 • 6min

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Alternative Führung: schnelle Kerne und Plattformen

33:10 • 3min

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Richtung entsteht dezentral und situationsabhängig

36:40 • 3min

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Emergente Strategie und wissenschaftliche Metaphern

39:32 • 9min

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Skalierung: Warum kollektive Aktion nötig ist

48:14 • 4min

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Strategie aus dem Vorhandenen entwickeln

52:01 • 4min

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Institutionalisierung, Ressourcen und Machtgefahr

55:44 • 5min

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Italienische Infrastruktur: Circoli, soziale Zentren

01:00:45 • 13min

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Pharmakologie der Organisation: Heilmittel und Gift

01:13:50 • 11min

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Bounded vs. unbounded orders: Entscheidung ohne klare Grenzen

01:25:20 • 2min

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Mechanismen gegen Machtkonzentration

01:27:33 • 13min

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Demokratische Planung als koordinative Herausforderung

01:40:55 • 8min

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Modellierung und abgestimmte Planungsebenen

01:48:41 • 5min

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Meta‑Organisation und Übergangsproblem

01:53:15 • 5min

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Horizon: Übergang statt klassische Revolution

01:58:22 • 5min

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Bewegungen der 2010er: Stärke ohne Ausdauer

02:03:45 • 4min

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Degrowth, Green New Deal und aktuelle Gegenkräfte

02:07:35 • 3min

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Soziale Reproduktion als Hebel für Politik

02:10:20 • 1min

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Was macht die Zukunft freudvoll?

• Mentioned in 2 episodes

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Being and Event

Alain Badiou

Alain Badiou's "Being and Event" is a significant work in contemporary philosophy, exploring the relationship between ontology and mathematics. Badiou develops a unique ontological framework based on set theory, arguing that mathematics provides a fundamental model for understanding Being. He introduces the concept of the event as a rupture in the existing order of Being, creating new possibilities and transformations. The book is characterized by its rigorous philosophical argumentation and its innovative approach to ontology. Its influence extends across various fields, shaping discussions on ontology, politics, and the nature of truth.

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Anti-Oedipus

Félix Guattari

Gilles Deleuze

In 'Anti-Oedipus,' Deleuze and Guattari critique the Freudian/Lacanian psychoanalytic model of the ego, particularly the Oedipus complex. They argue that human desire is not rooted in familial relationships but in broader socio-political contexts. The book introduces the concept of 'schizoanalysis,' a method aimed at freeing desire from capitalist and familial repression. It delves into the relationship between capitalism and schizophrenia, suggesting that capitalism exploits and commodifies desires rather than repressing them. The authors propose a radical analysis that synthesizes political economy and psychology, introducing concepts such as desiring-machines, deterritorialization, and the body-without-organs.

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Envisioning Real Utopias

Eric Olin Wright

Eric Olin Wright's "Envisioning Real Utopias" explores the possibilities of creating more just and equitable societies. It delves into various models of social organization, examining their strengths and weaknesses. The book challenges traditional utopian thinking by focusing on practical steps towards achieving real-world improvements. Wright emphasizes the importance of participatory democracy and economic justice in building a better future. His work offers a nuanced and pragmatic approach to envisioning and working towards a more just world.

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Being and Event

Alain Badiou

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Neither Vertical nor Horizontal

A Theory of Political Organization

Rodrigo Nunes

Rodrigo Nunes on ecologies of organization and democratic transformation.

Shownotes Rodrigo Nunes

Dr. Rodrigo Guimaraes Nunes at the University of Essex:

https://www.essex.ac.uk/people/NUNES97805/Rodrigo-Guimaraes%20Nunes

Rodrigo Nunes at the Pontifical Catholic University of Rio de Janeiro (PUC-Rio):

http://www.fil.puc-rio.br/o-departamento/corpo-docente/rodrigo-guimaraes-nunes/

Nunes, R. (2025). Neither Vertical nor Horizontal. A Theory of Political Organization. Verso.

https://www.versobooks.com/products/772-neither-vertical-nor-horizontal

Nunes, R. (forthcoming, October 2026). Anatomy of Disintegration. What Brazil Reveals About the Global Far Right. HaymarketBooks.

https://www.haymarketbooks.org/books/2881-anatomy-of-disintegration

on ‘fidelity’ by Alain Badiou:

Badious, A. (1988-2022). Being and Event I-III.

https://www.bloomsbury.com/uk/being-and-event-9781472511065/

on the Russian revolution:

https://www.britannica.com/event/Russian-Revolution

on Democracia Real Ya!:

http://www.democraciarealya.org.es/

on Juventud Sin Futuro:

https://www.youtube.com/user/JuventudSINFuturo/videos

on Complexity Theory, Chaos Theory and Non-Linear Dynamic Systems:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/social-sciences/complexity-theory

https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/earth-and-planetary-sciences/chaos-theory

Lorenz, E. N. (1975). Predictability: Does the Flap of a Butterfly’s Wings in Brazil set off a Tornado in Texas?

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wSIvtZQaoMHrKUImVBH5gqn303JX0M5n/view?usp=sharing

Italian Communist Party ‘Partito Comunista Italiano (PCI):’

https://ilpartitocomunista.it/

on Circolo ARCI:

https://www.arci.it/

further reading on (Italian) communist history:

Magri, L. (2019). The Tailor of Ulm: A History of Communism. Verso.

https://www.versobooks.com/products/2211-the-tailor-of-ulm?srsltid=AfmBOor6D6hcoIOngJTTcfkoWSV8uvd9Ej3goiOtBlD6rkgWEqs3Zkcg

on ‘Autonomia Operaia’ and the Autonomist movement in Italy in the 70s:

Wright, S. (2017). Storming Heaven. Class Composition and Struggle in Italian Autonomist Marxism.

https://www.plutobooks.com/product/storming-heaven/

on potentia/potestas see Chapter 1 ‘Towards a Theory of Political Organisation’ of Rodrigo’s book:

Nunes, R. (2025). Neither Vertical nor Horizontal. A Theory of Political Organization. Verso.

https://www.versobooks.com/products/772-neither-vertical-nor-horizontal

on Lotta Continua and Potere Operaio:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lotta_Continua

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potere_Operaio

on Partito Democratico:

https://partitodemocratico.it/

Deleuze, G. & Guattari, F. (1983). Anti-Oedipus: Capitalism and Schizophrenia. University of Minnesota Press.

https://www.abebooks.com/9780816612253/Anti-Oedipus-Capitalism-Schizophrenia-Deleuze-Gilles-0816612250/plp

Wright, E. O. (2010). Envisioning Real Utopias. Verso Books.

https://www.versobooks.com/en-gb/products/2143-envisioning-real-utopias?srsltid=AfmBOooibKTSQ_s7NTVZJ1Bvex4_8PNRx1KiVQV6nq6nEKRQZ6XA9PXP

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