The past couple of weeks have seen some alarming developments in the U.S.-China relationship. Among them is how the United States plans to deal with the wildly popular Chinese social media app TikTok. The debate over the social giant has reached the White House and discussions of what to do about it have ranged from an outright ban to Microsoft acquiring U.S. operations of the app.

What makes TikTok a threat to national security? And what does this whole episode say about where U.S.-China relations are heading?

Guest: Bethany Allen-Ebrahimian, reporter for Axios and author of the Axios China newsletter.

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