The Ben Shapiro Show Ep. 2424 - Here’s How China SPIES on the US
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May 12, 2026 
Sam Brownback, former U.S. senator, governor, and ambassador for international religious freedom, discusses China’s campaign against religion and human rights. He describes surveillance and Xinjiang camps. They also cover Chinese influence in universities and supply chains. Short, urgent takes on mobilizing faith communities and exposing global PRC operations.
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Multiple U.S. Officials Were Tied To Chinese Influence Campaigns
- Shapiro lists multiple U.S. cases showing Chinese influence: aides, staffers, researchers, and 'honeypot' operatives.
- Examples include Christine Fang (Swalwell), Linda Sun (Hochul aide), Charles Lieber, and others prosecuted or exposed for PRC ties.
Use Trade Carrots And Sticks To Isolate China
- Shapiro urges economic isolation of China using both carrots and sticks to decouple supply chains and sway third-party countries.
- He recommends better trade deals with allies to force countries to choose between U.S. markets or Chinese manufacturing.
Cut Domestic Bloat To Reduce Chinese Leverage
- Shapiro advises domestic fiscal discipline to reduce leverage China holds by buying U.S. debt and to keep America flexible geopolitically.
- He calls for lowering taxes, shrinking the welfare state, and reducing reliance on Chinese bond purchases.
