Does the looming ouster of a devoted Trump critic from House GOP leadership mean the party remains in thrall to the former president? Or does it just mean that Republican political leaders don’t want to keep talking about him?

Guest: Eliana Johnson, Editor-in-chief at the Washington Free Beacon.

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