The Messy Podcast 209. The Mess of Same-Sex Attraction (w/ Heath Lambert)
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May 10, 2022 Heath Lambert, an expert on how the Gospel speaks to same-sex attraction, joins Scott Mehl to discuss various topics. They explore the significance of empathy in counseling, the value of kind conversations, understanding labels, the cycle of temptation and suffering, the cultural shift in perception of homosexuality, finding hope and redemption in the gospel, and the importance of trust and speaking truth.
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Struggle Is A Mix Of Sin And Suffering
- By the time someone seeks help, their struggle is a complex mix of sin and suffering, not purely one or the other.
- Lambert emphasizes attending both to objective sin and to grief/shame that signal the Spirit's work in their life.
Two Kinds Of Shame From Cultural Shifts
- Cultural shifts create two opposite shames: past secret-keeping and modern pressured participation.
- Lambert notes people now feel shame either for hiding homosexual desires or for not joining celebrated queer norms, both compounding struggle.
Ask What You Want So Bad You Will Sin For
- Ask which desire rules their heart by asking what they'll sin to get or sin if they don't get.
- Lambert credits Stuart Scott's question as the practical gateway to uncovering ruling desires beyond mere sexual appetite.