
Clearer Thinking with Spencer Greenberg The most important century (with Holden Karnofsky)
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Aug 27, 2025 Holden Karnofsky, a Member of Technical Staff at Anthropic and co-founder of GiveWell, dives into provocative topics about our future. He questions if we've hit 'peak progress' and whether ongoing economic growth is sustainable. Karnofsky discusses the risks of stagnation in innovation, the paradoxes of AI development, and parallels drawn between agricultural shifts and quality of life. He also reflects on the ethical complexities of aligning AI with human values, emphasizing the importance of responsible scaling in this transformative era.
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COVID Prompted Little Lasting Preparedness
- Holden recounts surprise at society's weak learning from COVID and limited follow-through on preparedness.
- He notes vaccine tech succeeded, but broader policy and infrastructure changes largely stalled.
Technical Safety And Regulation Are Complementary
- Technical safety research and regulatory cooperation are complementary and both useful for AI risk reduction.
- Progress on either front strengthens the other and improves overall governance choices.
Changing My Mind About AI Over Time
- Holden describes updating from skeptical to concerned about AI after observing stronger arguments and capability progress.
- He practiced staged updating: research, identify credible experts, then shift attention and funding accordingly.

