
People I (Mostly) Admire 173. Steve Levitt Says Goodbye to People I (Mostly) Admire
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Dec 20, 2025 Stephen Dubner interviews Steve Levitt, a celebrated economist and co-creator of Freakonomics. They explore Levitt's journey on the show, his discomfort with interviewing, and memorable moments with guests like Joel Osteen and Yuval Noah Harari. Levitt shares his insights on education reform and the impact of AI on learning, emphasizing the need for engaged students. He reflects on his spiritual awakening and how the podcast reignited his curiosity. As he transitions to new projects, he reveals his ambitions to tackle important policy issues.
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Expand Success Metrics To Reignite Students
- Broadening what counts as success lets many students feel capable and reduces toxic competition for a single metric.
- Celebrating varied accomplishments restores engagement and creativity in school.
Engagement Determines AI's Impact
- AI is a double-edged tool: it accelerates learning for engaged students and enables cheating for disengaged ones.
- Engagement has become the linchpin of education in the AI era.
Learning When The Need Is Immediate
- Levitt recounts learning math quickly when he needed it for MIT and learning programming to bet on horses.
- These episodes illustrate 'just-in-time' learning's immense motivational power.







