The School of Greatness Narcissism Experts Reveal How To SPOT, Handle & Heal From Trauma | Lewis Howes
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Feb 25, 2026 
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Annie Sarnblad
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Jerry Wise
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Esther Perel
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Vanessa Van Edwards
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Dr. Ramani Durvasula
Annie Sarnblad, micro‑expression expert who spots split‑second tells. Jerry Wise, family therapist focused on healing generational patterns. Esther Perel, relationship psychotherapist exploring intimacy and covert control. Vanessa Van Edwards, behavioral investigator decoding nonverbal deception. Dr. Ramani Durvasula, clinical psychologist and narcissism authority. They discuss spotting subtle manipulation, covert narcissism, family‑of‑origin programming, body‑language danger cues, and pathways to reclaim self‑trust.
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Watch For Lip Purse And Blink Rate Tells
- Watch for specific nonverbal tells like lip pursing, sudden distancing, increased blink rate as signs someone is withholding or lying.
- Vanessa illustrates with Lance Armstrong's lip purse and lab 'Lie to Me' experiments showing consistent leakage.
Avoid Fake Warmth With Toxic People
- When forced to interact with toxic people, avoid fake warmth; set boundaries or remove them instead.
- Vanessa recommends doubling down on competence at work rather than pretending warmth, and to limit exposure to toxic people.
Narcissism Is Part Individual And Cultural
- Narcissism sits both in individuals and culture; 21st-century 'selfie' culture amplifies narcissistic expressions.
- Esther Perel frames narcissism as a cultural-era diagnosis and notes covert narcissism controls via victimhood and guilt.
