Freakonomics Radio

513. Should Public Transit Be Free? (Update)

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Nov 30, 2023
Brian Taylor, a UCLA urban planning professor, Janno Lieber, CEO of New York's MTA, and Michelle Wu, the Mayor of Boston, discuss the future of public transit. They debate the complex question of making public transportation free, detailing its potential to enhance economic opportunity and social mobility while benefiting the environment. Insights include the impact of fare-free systems on ridership, equity, and innovative funding solutions. The conversation challenges traditional views on transportation financing and sheds light on efforts toward climate justice.
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ANECDOTE

Kansas City's Transition to Free Transit

  • Kansas City strategically transitioned to free transit, starting with veterans, students, and vulnerable groups.
  • By addressing these groups first, they built support and smoothed the overall transition.
INSIGHT

Public Transit Funding

  • Public transit funding relies heavily on government subsidies, not fares.
  • Kansas City's farebox recovery was under 10%, highlighting the existing public funding.
ANECDOTE

Kansas City's Fare-Free Outcomes

  • Contrary to fears, Kansas City experienced decreased incidents and improved services for the homeless after going fare-free.
  • Fare disputes were reduced, and case management teams helped connect homeless riders with resources.
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