Goodmakers Podcast with Paul Anleitner Jordan Hall | The AI Apocalypse is Here: AI, Religion, & The Great Transition
Mar 4, 2026
Jordan Hall, writer on civilization-scale ideas and technological change, joins to unpack sudden agentic AI breakthroughs. He recounts AI building an iOS app, maps which jobs face displacement, and explores market, economic, and geopolitical ripple effects. The conversation also frames AI in theological terms and offers practical heuristics for choosing a cooperative, human-centered path forward.
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Agentic AI Can Recreate Service Platforms Fast
- Agentic AI can recreate entire service platforms by optimizing user flows and backend infrastructure at near-zero marginal cost.
- Jordan claims a three-agent swarm can build a DoorDash competitor over a weekend and offer better economics to drivers and customers.
Automation Triggers Secondary Economic Spirals
- Job loss cascades into secondary markets, producing spirals that reduce overall demand across real estate, food delivery, and more.
- Jordan explains cheaper efficiency reallocates spending away from incumbents, destroying attached jobs and revenue streams.
AI Pushes Civilization From Scarcity To Abundance
- The transition driven by AI moves civilization from scarcity towards abundance, impacting foundational societal structures.
- Jordan ties this shift to deep civilizational roots like agriculture, bookkeeping, and the role of religion in binding societies.
