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649: P&G and Walmart: The Story Behind the Groundbreaking Relationship (Strategy Skills classics)

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May 4, 2026
Tom Muccio, former P&G executive and author of Collaborative Disruption, led the P&G–Walmart partnership that scaled their business from $350M to $8B. He recounts creating mirror multifunctional teams, breaking corporate barriers, rigorous testing with shared success criteria, and cultural shifts that enabled trust, faster launches, and repeatable customer-supplier collaboration.
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ANECDOTE

How Sam Walton Forced A New Way Of Working

  • Tom Muccio recounts how Sam Walton initially couldn't reach P&G's CEO because the assistant didn't recognize him, which led to creating a One Company Operating Model.
  • That story sparked co-located mirror teams in Bentonville and grew P&G-Walmart sales from $350M to $8B over 15 years.
ADVICE

Always Test With Written Success Criteria

  • Test new ideas with written success criteria to de-risk innovation and avoid falling in love with unproven concepts.
  • Define ROI and scaling rules up front so pilots that meet criteria can be rapidly expanded across the relationship.
INSIGHT

The Five Dragons That Kill Change

  • Tom identifies five internal 'dragons' that block change: corporate fog, the deep state, the swamp, the flat earth society, and the loyal opposition.
  • He explains these create misaligned incentives, bureaucracy, disbelief, and passive resistance that must be actively managed.
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