It was a great podcast thank you! I appreciate the wild goosechase reminders.
The caveat seems to be that the mind will create resistance to feeling each time, there's no doer that does the resisting, it just happens, yet there's the witnessing of it happening that's also where the potential for it shifting is. The agenda is in the resistance. The witnessing of it has no agenda. For some reasons this feels like a paradox. Might be overthinking.
It feels like there's a separate me that is the one that wields the willpower to overcome the resistance and feel sensations (agenda)...instead of a mind claiming that separation is real and then claiming that the separate thought stream is the doer.