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Next Steps for an Anti-Racist Society, with Ibram X. Kendi

Jul 18, 2022
Ibram X. Kendi, a renowned activist and author, teams up with BBC journalist Razia Iqbal to dive into themes from his latest book, focusing on raising anti-racist children. They discuss the critical role of education in fostering an equitable future and tackle the influence of parental attitudes on children’s racial views. Kendi shares a poignant story about his daughter’s experience with toys, illustrating how they shape identity. The conversation emphasizes collective responsibility and actionable steps towards a more just society.
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ANECDOTE

Sadiqa's Pregnancy

  • Kendi's partner, Sadiqa, a pediatrician, noticed something wrong with her pregnancy, but medical providers dismissed her concerns.
  • Her persistence led to early intervention, saving their daughter's life, this became a metaphor for the book.
INSIGHT

Not Racist vs. Anti-Racist

  • "I'm not racist" is a form of denial, not the opposite of racist.
  • Being anti-racist requires actively confronting racist ideas and policies.
INSIGHT

Fluidity of Racism

  • Racist and anti-racist are not identities but describe actions and words in a given moment.
  • People can hold both racist and anti-racist views simultaneously and have the capacity to change.
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