Katy Milkman: ...that the path to expect requires you to enjoy the journey

Most people are trying to change one habit or another for the better. They've probably tried to change before, but without much luck. Our guest on this episode, Professor Katy Milkman, is an award-winning behavioral scientist at The Wharton School.

Katy's research explores ways that insights from economics and psychology can be used to change behaviors for good. She's the author of a new book on that topic called, How to Change: The Science of Getting from Where You Are to Where You Want to Be. Her website is katymilkman.com.

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